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this is nsa memos. that's one part. the second part has to do with the fact the white house is now saying we're not going to do it going forward. you get the sense that they know they are embarrassed by the revelations. they are not necessarily embarrassed by the tactics but embarrassed they got caught. >> take a look at what some of the eu parliamentarians came, axle voss from germany speaking on capitol hill to frank. >> frustration, anger, the feeling no one is controlling the nsa, no one is respecting privacy rights. no one is respecting data protection standouts. therefore we are in a mix of anger and frustration but also trying to keep the relationship alive. >> but they want answers. they said these were frank discussions. mark, you and i have covered foreign policy a long time. this is a very unhappy group of people. to a certain extent there's spying everywhere. we know that. it's a little shock. there's gambling at mr. rick's. the germans want the same special relationship of no spying agreement that we have w
this is nsa memos. that's one part. the second part has to do with the fact the white house is now saying we're not going to do it going forward. you get the sense that they know they are embarrassed by the revelations. they are not necessarily embarrassed by the tactics but embarrassed they got caught. >> take a look at what some of the eu parliamentarians came, axle voss from germany speaking on capitol hill to frank. >> frustration, anger, the feeling no one is controlling the...
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this is something the white house and nsa deny. "wall street journal" reports the president was only made aware of this last summer. conflicting at this point. neither answers is satisfying because either he didn't have enough oversight or he hasn't been entirely forthcoming. demands for more information. some of these things are so sensitive, he can't go into full detail. >> there's a review under way right now. we expect other potentially controversial details to emerge. >> no question. they a real worry now particularly for relationships sensitive intelligence sharing relationships with the u.s. we share intelligence with the germans, french and so on. these relationships in south asia, in the middle east, more difficult countries for which a revelation they're cooperating on a country like iran could be damaging for them and u.s. relationships with them. >> in germany, this is especially sensitive because of east germany and the way it was ruled during the communist era. this is such a sensitive issue for the chancellor angela
this is something the white house and nsa deny. "wall street journal" reports the president was only made aware of this last summer. conflicting at this point. neither answers is satisfying because either he didn't have enough oversight or he hasn't been entirely forthcoming. demands for more information. some of these things are so sensitive, he can't go into full detail. >> there's a review under way right now. we expect other potentially controversial details to emerge....
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allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big pushback coming from this unidentified source, the wall street journal, saying the president did not know the nsa was spying on foreign leaders, put a stop to it once he found out. let's take the president at his word. why didn't he know? >> look, i have absolutely zero idea about whether he knew whether he didn't, why he didn't, or what. what i do know is spying has been, you know, as old as diplomacy itself. it is part of accepted statecraft. it's not pleasant. they don't like it, but they all know it happens. i think the issue is the publics in europe were very upset. in germany
allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big...
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meanwhile a top republican lawmaker is defending the nsa surveillance program abroad saying it keeps allies "safe." congressman mike rogers told our candy crowley the reports that the u.s. spied on millions of french citizens is misguided. >> maybe there's something more to that. i argue if the french citizens knew exactly what that was about they'd be applauding and popping champagne corks. it's a good thing, keeps the french safe t keeps the u.s. safe t keeps our european allies safe so this whole notion that we're going to go after each other on what is really legitimate protection of nation state interests i think is disingenuous candidly. >> mike rogers calling it disingenuous, something like that classic scene from "casablanca." >> everybody is to leave here immediately. this cafe is closed until further notice. clear the room at once! >> how can he close me up? >> i'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here. >> your winnings, sir. >> thank you very much. >> we'll talk more about this all of this and the fallout throughout the show, but cnn chief national sec
meanwhile a top republican lawmaker is defending the nsa surveillance program abroad saying it keeps allies "safe." congressman mike rogers told our candy crowley the reports that the u.s. spied on millions of french citizens is misguided. >> maybe there's something more to that. i argue if the french citizens knew exactly what that was about they'd be applauding and popping champagne corks. it's a good thing, keeps the french safe t keeps the u.s. safe t keeps our european...
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does changes in the nsa and the spying, will that change that or not? >>> rapper jay z say he is being unfairly criticized. two people were detained by police when they bought expensive things. hundreds have taken to twitter demanding jay z end his partnership with barneys. this puts jay z in a rather awkward position. he's about to launch a collection of clothing, jewelry. the money from the deal is going to a charity. it's not like he's keeping it for himself. the question is, will sticking with barneys hurt his brand as a rapper? the truth is probably not. he and his wife beyonce have had a stream of other income. jay z is worth $500 million. and when you add that to his wife, they have well over a billion dollars. which brings me to tonight's number. 3.6 million. according to the luxury institute. that is the average worth of a barney's shopper. they are incredibly wealthy. and even though he may not like probably not a boycott strong enough for him to change. >>> is the site of the winter games too dangerous? >>> and new details in the case of a bo
does changes in the nsa and the spying, will that change that or not? >>> rapper jay z say he is being unfairly criticized. two people were detained by police when they bought expensive things. hundreds have taken to twitter demanding jay z end his partnership with barneys. this puts jay z in a rather awkward position. he's about to launch a collection of clothing, jewelry. the money from the deal is going to a charity. it's not like he's keeping it for himself. the question is, will...
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has confidencet in general alexander and the leadership at the nsa and the rank-and-file at the nsa who do extraordinary work on behalf of every american citizen and on behalf of our allies, keeping them safe. the issues that are part of the review look at how we can better andnce our security needs the security needs of our allies against the real privacy concerns that we all share. top, thereted at the has been extraordinary change, technological change in the last 10, 20 years. the last 10 or so years since -- i mean, it has affected the whole world in the sense of how the world transfers information and that has brought about changes in the way that those in the world who want to do harm to americans and our allies operate. so, that has meant we have had to adapt. adapted, and as we adapt, we need to make sure -- the president is in sense and -- the president is insistent -- that we strike a balance that protects our security. >> the revolution of the eavesdropping has caused damage with our allies. when do you expect a review to be done and do you expect a scaling back of monitorin
has confidencet in general alexander and the leadership at the nsa and the rank-and-file at the nsa who do extraordinary work on behalf of every american citizen and on behalf of our allies, keeping them safe. the issues that are part of the review look at how we can better andnce our security needs the security needs of our allies against the real privacy concerns that we all share. top, thereted at the has been extraordinary change, technological change in the last 10, 20 years. the last 10...
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i agree with him, nsa spying that protects our national security is critical. but he is lumping in this what i would call gratuitous spying on our leaders that could have enormous consequences for our national security. >> what if this is just trust but verify? >> listen, in the end trust but verify comes down to a very simple proposition. they all knew that we're spying. they do it, everybody does it. but the fact of the matter is, is that there's gambling going on upstairs. all of a sudden there's a revelation. it's the damage that was done now, thomas, and the biggest concern that i have is that we really didn't have to be snooping on chancellor merkel's phone conversations to know what's going on in germany. we didn't have to be doing this. this is an nsa that has run out of control at this point. >>> so reform on the rocks. even senator marco rubio admits that efforts to change immigration reform and the law not going so good. the agenda panel will weigh in on that coming up. >>> jay z breaking his silence about his big deal with the department store barne
i agree with him, nsa spying that protects our national security is critical. but he is lumping in this what i would call gratuitous spying on our leaders that could have enormous consequences for our national security. >> what if this is just trust but verify? >> listen, in the end trust but verify comes down to a very simple proposition. they all knew that we're spying. they do it, everybody does it. but the fact of the matter is, is that there's gambling going on upstairs. all of...
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if he didn't know he presided over an nsa that was unaccountable. if i had to bet i'd put my money on he didn't know all along. if he did, it would be too impractical to tell him. >> i take the president his word about this, just given the scope of how much information was getting vacuumed up. >> that's some high-level information, though, isn't it? this is different than metadata, to peter's point of this is tapping angela merkel's cell phone. >> if the president did not know that we were vacuuming up calls and information from our closest allies, then the thing really, really, has spun completely out of control. >> ezra, the third point there, okay, so maybe the president is mad. maybe the american public is mad. the jury is still out on that. the third question is are the leaders themselves actually mad? i think it's different with the germans, you have brazilians who canceled state visit, mexicans calling for ambassadorial meetings, the spanish also in inquiring and the french who were indignant and outraged. >> they are always the best. >> i do
if he didn't know he presided over an nsa that was unaccountable. if i had to bet i'd put my money on he didn't know all along. if he did, it would be too impractical to tell him. >> i take the president his word about this, just given the scope of how much information was getting vacuumed up. >> that's some high-level information, though, isn't it? this is different than metadata, to peter's point of this is tapping angela merkel's cell phone. >> if the president did not know...
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documents provided by nsa leaker edward snowden. the spanish government summoned the american ambassador asking for an explanation. >>> this weekend, thousands of protesters marched on capitol hill demanding an end to the government surveillance program at home and abroad. many carried signs praising snowden and thanking him for blowing wistle on the nsa by leaking classified documents. this comes as international outrage builds over the broad scope of the nsa's data gathering over years. european leaders continue to put pressure on the country to for a new spying deal on allies. chefon, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> let's explain why it is some officials have explained perhaps why the president would not know about this for five years. >> as it was explained to us, this type of surveillance is the type of program or decision that would be executed at the level of the national security agency and the way the protocols are set up at this point, that's sort of where the line of information would stop. there isn't n
documents provided by nsa leaker edward snowden. the spanish government summoned the american ambassador asking for an explanation. >>> this weekend, thousands of protesters marched on capitol hill demanding an end to the government surveillance program at home and abroad. many carried signs praising snowden and thanking him for blowing wistle on the nsa by leaking classified documents. this comes as international outrage builds over the broad scope of the nsa's data gathering over...
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a group of european lawmakers are in washington trying to sort out nsa spying allegations. members of a delegation spoke after one of their meetings with u.s. officials. >> we need to figure out why this kind of massive activity is happening, and what kind of trust needs to be rebuilt. in the end we are fighting a battle in terms of security, we need to get that balance right. and we are concerned too, about security. and we made that pretty clear. but also there is a balance to tbe struck to the privacy of sid sense. >> james was sworn in as the new head of the fbi. he previously center as deputy attorney general in the bush administration. and those are the headlines at this hour, i am tony harris in new york, "real money" can ali velshi is next on al jazeera. ♪ ♪ >>> danger of slowing home sales goes way beyond the housing market and could hurt you. plus $40 billion is sitting unclaimed in retirement accounts and some of it could be yours. and one man says it's time for the nfl to play by different rules when it comes to paying for new stadiums. i am ali velshi, this
a group of european lawmakers are in washington trying to sort out nsa spying allegations. members of a delegation spoke after one of their meetings with u.s. officials. >> we need to figure out why this kind of massive activity is happening, and what kind of trust needs to be rebuilt. in the end we are fighting a battle in terms of security, we need to get that balance right. and we are concerned too, about security. and we made that pretty clear. but also there is a balance to tbe...
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. >> one report from a german tabloid indicated that president obama knew that the nsa was tapping the phone of the german chance explore he allowed it to continue, again, german tabloid, a spokeswoman for the agency says that is simply not true. and "the wall street journal" reports the nsa stop monitoring chancellor merkel and other leaders after a white house review uncovered the operations. "the wall street journal" again. meanwhile, a state department spokeswoman says our ambassador to spain met with officials there to discuss reports that the nsa tracked more than 60 million phone calls in that country in one month. dana perino was the press secretary under george w. bush, the 43rd, president bush, 43, and this was happening under bush 43rd. >> i suppose. i don't get the outrage. i don't. i can mott believe the white house said we're going to have to curtail our operations, our intelligence, because they were embarrassed over a report. there's a reason they call it top secret. it is top secret, and i bet you any of these countries that are in any of this news stores are trying to
. >> one report from a german tabloid indicated that president obama knew that the nsa was tapping the phone of the german chance explore he allowed it to continue, again, german tabloid, a spokeswoman for the agency says that is simply not true. and "the wall street journal" reports the nsa stop monitoring chancellor merkel and other leaders after a white house review uncovered the operations. "the wall street journal" again. meanwhile, a state department spokeswoman...
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a story we're going to cover in a little bit, nsa listening to world leader phone calls, didn't know about that. is it possible or conceivable that president obama could be out of the loop on some of these big item sns. >> it's conceivable to me he could be out of the loop on any one of them. but it's hard to believe he wouldn't have known about any of them, any of these ones they said he didn't know about. we've been given to believe this is a very bright, very curious man who cares about policy details, grasps without difficulty and asks without questions. the picture that emerges from the array of things he was not in the loop on was a more disengaged president leaving it all to others. in which case it's imperative that you pick good others. it's questionable whether he has. >> all right, brit. thank you. >>> the health care fiasco is playing a big role in the contest for governor. just how important that may be. >> hold back the tide of obama care. i need your vote on november 5th. >> crunch time in virginia's race for governor and republican ken cuccinelli trying to make refere
a story we're going to cover in a little bit, nsa listening to world leader phone calls, didn't know about that. is it possible or conceivable that president obama could be out of the loop on some of these big item sns. >> it's conceivable to me he could be out of the loop on any one of them. but it's hard to believe he wouldn't have known about any of them, any of these ones they said he didn't know about. we've been given to believe this is a very bright, very curious man who cares...
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the nsa went on record to say that the president did not know about it. it makes me feel worse actually. the president has been forced to apologize not only to merkel but france's president and brazil's president. the eu is threatening to cancel pending trade talks. thanks, edward snowden, we appreciate it. let's spin. there's a lot of directions to go. one of the dynamic that's really interesting, to consider president obama's position here, i think we've all been trying to figure out where exactly he stands. he's been hawkish in some ways and continued a lot of these programs but he also seems sort of ret sent, saying they suspended the spying operations, they didn't know about it. peter king said something interesting over the weekend that sort of speaks to that. >> the president should stop apologizing and being defensive. the realty is the nsa has saved thousands of lives not just in united states but in france and germany and throughout europe. quite frankly they have done so much for our country and help this president in his term, he should be --
the nsa went on record to say that the president did not know about it. it makes me feel worse actually. the president has been forced to apologize not only to merkel but france's president and brazil's president. the eu is threatening to cancel pending trade talks. thanks, edward snowden, we appreciate it. let's spin. there's a lot of directions to go. one of the dynamic that's really interesting, to consider president obama's position here, i think we've all been trying to figure out where...
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why weren't you monitoring. >> the other issue is the nsa mismanagement. that's another thing about this white house. they don't like to fire people in the moment. people then get fired like five months later and decide to leave. general alexander, we know he is leaving and they are trying to say it's not connected. of course it is. everybody in the intelligence community is furious. >> i'm sure you had several people say this to you and people say we don't work on washington's time frame. everyone is calling for someone to be fired. we work on a different time frame. you run the risk of a period like you are not handling an issue and taking it seriously. >> i do. i have been in that position at governor's level and you want to be careful about this stuff. particularly the relationships. >> feed you people. >> but you do eventually fire somebody and you like to wait? >> you move them quietly. >> you all love that. >> i can make so many jokes. hold off. we will talk more hot politics and that will get you fired up. tension at the top. we look at the rocky r
why weren't you monitoring. >> the other issue is the nsa mismanagement. that's another thing about this white house. they don't like to fire people in the moment. people then get fired like five months later and decide to leave. general alexander, we know he is leaving and they are trying to say it's not connected. of course it is. everybody in the intelligence community is furious. >> i'm sure you had several people say this to you and people say we don't work on washington's time...
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regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer after which it ended some of those programs. the senior administration official tells me the program that monitored the phone of german chancellor angela merkel did not end until quite recently. the white house today sidestepped any comment on that report while vaguely promising more accountability. >> we recognize that there need to be additional constraints on how we gather and use intelligence, but the president has directed us to review our surveillance capabilities. the entire review that is being led by the white house will be completed by the end of the year. >> the offi
regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer...
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why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the way, we listen to her phone conversations on her cell phone, you should know this. >> i talked to people on both sides of this. some say if he didn't know, he should have known. he should just have assumed it. others say well, this is the way the nsa operates and you need to pierce that and you need to change the system, because just because as jay carney said today, just because they can gather all this information doesn't mean that they should gather all this information. that's why it's clear the president is having a review in the wake of the edward snowden disclosures but
why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the...
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intelligence worker involved in nsa operations against merkel that the nsa chief, general keith alexander informed the president in person about 2010, obama didn't stop the operation back then, but he let it continue. there is no that discussion about any intention regarding the recording of the president. caller: i just wanted to say this. i remember the ap story and member the ap story for reason. therems that every time is an ap story has been spying. i don't think we in this country particularly care about our government spying on people because they have been doing it for so long, especially under george bush and cheney. i think that govern he wow. where do want to say is this: i wish we could talk about jobs and how we are treating our kids in our schools now. i wish we could talk about something that's... evil really have something that we can do something with because i don't think this story right here does anything for our country because i don't think they're going to stop. why would they? stop. surely not can he's going to make sure we are protected. we have republican party a
intelligence worker involved in nsa operations against merkel that the nsa chief, general keith alexander informed the president in person about 2010, obama didn't stop the operation back then, but he let it continue. there is no that discussion about any intention regarding the recording of the president. caller: i just wanted to say this. i remember the ap story and member the ap story for reason. therems that every time is an ap story has been spying. i don't think we in this country...